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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2021 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2019/11/riding-a-heavy-motorcycle/#comment-47548&quot;&gt;AleiaSerenity&lt;/a&gt;.

Each new motorcycle or scooter I&#039;ve ridden feels heavy, and a little alien.  Especially when I started riding.  I remember when I moved from the LX150 to the GTS250 it was a little unnerving because of the weight and power increase.  But with some deliberate practice of starting, stopping, and turning.  

I think the more important thing to consider, especially when starting out, is being able to have both feet flat on the ground.  Even the smallest Vespa scooters are very tall.  I&#039;m 6&#039;2&quot; so it&#039;s not a problem.  My youngest daughter rides a scooter and the Vespa was too scary.  So she chose a Yamaha Vino 125.  It is much lower and she can easily flat foot that scooter.

I&#039;m not sure where you live, but taking a training course is a good idea, one where you get to ride on a closed course.  I took the Motorcycle Safety Foundation&#039;s Basic Rider Course even though I &quot;knew how to ride.&quot;  And I&#039;ve since taken the Advanced Rider Course twice.  It definitely helps your confidence with the machine and on the road with other vehicles.

Once you ride a little more you&#039;ll find the weight and inertia is not as imposing as it may feel now.  It&#039;s how people can ride thousand-pound motorcycles.  It&#039;s about the physics and allowing physics to do the work.  A unique skill to acquire.

Good luck and be safe!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2019/11/riding-a-heavy-motorcycle/#comment-47548">AleiaSerenity</a>.</p>
<p>Each new motorcycle or scooter I&#8217;ve ridden feels heavy, and a little alien.  Especially when I started riding.  I remember when I moved from the LX150 to the GTS250 it was a little unnerving because of the weight and power increase.  But with some deliberate practice of starting, stopping, and turning.  </p>
<p>I think the more important thing to consider, especially when starting out, is being able to have both feet flat on the ground.  Even the smallest Vespa scooters are very tall.  I&#8217;m 6&#8217;2&#8243; so it&#8217;s not a problem.  My youngest daughter rides a scooter and the Vespa was too scary.  So she chose a Yamaha Vino 125.  It is much lower and she can easily flat foot that scooter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure where you live, but taking a training course is a good idea, one where you get to ride on a closed course.  I took the Motorcycle Safety Foundation&#8217;s Basic Rider Course even though I &#8220;knew how to ride.&#8221;  And I&#8217;ve since taken the Advanced Rider Course twice.  It definitely helps your confidence with the machine and on the road with other vehicles.</p>
<p>Once you ride a little more you&#8217;ll find the weight and inertia is not as imposing as it may feel now.  It&#8217;s how people can ride thousand-pound motorcycles.  It&#8217;s about the physics and allowing physics to do the work.  A unique skill to acquire.</p>
<p>Good luck and be safe!</p>
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		By: AleiaSerenity		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2021 04:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m Aleia&#039;s husband John using her account from my PC. As interesting as your article was I&#039;m learning to ride what you would call a small scooter... a 194 lbs 150cc China scooter with 10 inch wheels. To my 5&#039;2 115 lbs body size this scooter is a BEAST, I struggle to push walk it around when off the bike, both feet don&#039;t touch the ground fully but I can One Foot it, it feels extremely heavy and bulky. I could not imagine ever being able to ride your 325 lbs Vespa or a 550 lbs motorcycle. I choose the 150 because it met my needs speed wise intellectually but I think it&#039;s going to be months before I ever get the nerve up to even go past 20 mph and comfortable enough with its size and weight. In my 50&#039;s, I have used a 1000 watt 48 volt electric bike the past 10 years that does 38 mph. The ebike is way lighter and way easier to throttle. My 4 12v sla batteries died and I thought I&#039;ve always wanted a motorbike but don&#039;t want the hassle of using a clutch and shifter while driving so I choose a cheap scooter for more range and power plus ability to use cheap gas. Otherwise I would have bought a 700 dollar lithium battery pack to make my ebike lighter with more range. I figured for about the same price, the scooter would give me those things plus ability to fuel up quickly instead of waiting 5 hours to change the ebike battery. I think the extra weight I&#039;m pushing with the scooter keeps me afraid that inertia will be the ruin of me or someones nice car paint job. As excited as I am about making this life long dream come true, it terrifies me at the same time. I had no clue such a small bike would feel so heavy. Thanks for your perspective.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Aleia&#8217;s husband John using her account from my PC. As interesting as your article was I&#8217;m learning to ride what you would call a small scooter&#8230; a 194 lbs 150cc China scooter with 10 inch wheels. To my 5&#8217;2 115 lbs body size this scooter is a BEAST, I struggle to push walk it around when off the bike, both feet don&#8217;t touch the ground fully but I can One Foot it, it feels extremely heavy and bulky. I could not imagine ever being able to ride your 325 lbs Vespa or a 550 lbs motorcycle. I choose the 150 because it met my needs speed wise intellectually but I think it&#8217;s going to be months before I ever get the nerve up to even go past 20 mph and comfortable enough with its size and weight. In my 50&#8217;s, I have used a 1000 watt 48 volt electric bike the past 10 years that does 38 mph. The ebike is way lighter and way easier to throttle. My 4 12v sla batteries died and I thought I&#8217;ve always wanted a motorbike but don&#8217;t want the hassle of using a clutch and shifter while driving so I choose a cheap scooter for more range and power plus ability to use cheap gas. Otherwise I would have bought a 700 dollar lithium battery pack to make my ebike lighter with more range. I figured for about the same price, the scooter would give me those things plus ability to fuel up quickly instead of waiting 5 hours to change the ebike battery. I think the extra weight I&#8217;m pushing with the scooter keeps me afraid that inertia will be the ruin of me or someones nice car paint job. As excited as I am about making this life long dream come true, it terrifies me at the same time. I had no clue such a small bike would feel so heavy. Thanks for your perspective.</p>
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		By: Motorcycle Enlightenment - Scooter in the Sticks		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2021 03:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] And with enough practice, I&#8217;ll run across motorcycle enlightenment. The motorcycle doesn&#8217;t see much use during the cold months. With little protection from the elements and the relative ease of using the Vespa, I have to re-acclimate myself to the heavier, bulkier, less maneuverable machine. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] And with enough practice, I&#8217;ll run across motorcycle enlightenment. The motorcycle doesn&#8217;t see much use during the cold months. With little protection from the elements and the relative ease of using the Vespa, I have to re-acclimate myself to the heavier, bulkier, less maneuverable machine. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2019 01:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2019/11/riding-a-heavy-motorcycle/#comment-45634&quot;&gt;DOMINGO J CHANG&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, the sidestand is less than I would have expected from BMW.  Alas, just something to learn to deal with.  It&#039;s fun to ride in spite of that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2019/11/riding-a-heavy-motorcycle/#comment-45634">DOMINGO J CHANG</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah, the sidestand is less than I would have expected from BMW.  Alas, just something to learn to deal with.  It&#8217;s fun to ride in spite of that.</p>
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		By: DOMINGO J CHANG		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2019 20:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have never liked the sidestand on my R80 Beemer, makes its deployment and parking the motorcycle &quot;interesting&quot; if you don&#039;t pay attention!  Sounds like your K bike has the same system.  I much prefer the ignition cutout switch on other motorcycles as a way to prevent a rider from riding off with the kickstand down.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have never liked the sidestand on my R80 Beemer, makes its deployment and parking the motorcycle &#8220;interesting&#8221; if you don&#8217;t pay attention!  Sounds like your K bike has the same system.  I much prefer the ignition cutout switch on other motorcycles as a way to prevent a rider from riding off with the kickstand down.</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2019 03:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2019/11/riding-a-heavy-motorcycle/#comment-45617&quot;&gt;Paul Ruby&lt;/a&gt;.

I need to put the replacement ink cartridges in my printer and get to work!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2019/11/riding-a-heavy-motorcycle/#comment-45617">Paul Ruby</a>.</p>
<p>I need to put the replacement ink cartridges in my printer and get to work!</p>
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		By: Paul Ruby		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2019 02:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That foggy simple photo would make a nice print.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That foggy simple photo would make a nice print.</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2019/11/riding-a-heavy-motorcycle/#comment-45615</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2019 01:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2019/11/riding-a-heavy-motorcycle/#comment-45610&quot;&gt;Steel&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m with you, saving the bike from a fall isn&#039;t worth it.  The only reason I attempted it was I could feel the bike pushing against me as it started to go so the arrest was not jarring.  At that moment I was ready to jump out of the way but could tell I was already holding it up.  The real decision was whether I was strong enough to right it, or if I needed to just lower it to the ground.  Had I not been able to rotate my back to the bike it would have ended up on the ground.  

The weight of these things are startling when they begin to go.  Even my Vespa.  I&#039;ve had to let it drop a few times over the years because I found myself between the scooter and earth in a bad position.  

A friend at the Moto Hang said he got rid of his motorcycle after he broke a couple ribs when it fell over on him.  I don&#039;t want that or broken toes or anything else.  

I am lucky and have learned my lesson.  I won&#039;t get in that particular stupid situation again!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2019/11/riding-a-heavy-motorcycle/#comment-45610">Steel</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you, saving the bike from a fall isn&#8217;t worth it.  The only reason I attempted it was I could feel the bike pushing against me as it started to go so the arrest was not jarring.  At that moment I was ready to jump out of the way but could tell I was already holding it up.  The real decision was whether I was strong enough to right it, or if I needed to just lower it to the ground.  Had I not been able to rotate my back to the bike it would have ended up on the ground.  </p>
<p>The weight of these things are startling when they begin to go.  Even my Vespa.  I&#8217;ve had to let it drop a few times over the years because I found myself between the scooter and earth in a bad position.  </p>
<p>A friend at the Moto Hang said he got rid of his motorcycle after he broke a couple ribs when it fell over on him.  I don&#8217;t want that or broken toes or anything else.  </p>
<p>I am lucky and have learned my lesson.  I won&#8217;t get in that particular stupid situation again!</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2019 01:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2019/11/riding-a-heavy-motorcycle/#comment-45609&quot;&gt;Jim&lt;/a&gt;.

A scooter will definitely remain in my life for the foreseeable future for all the reasons you mention.  For now, the motorcycle seems a short-term addition until body or mind indicates it is too big and heavy to deal with.  Right now I can manage the K75 without trouble save for developing some motorcycle-specific habits unique to the bike.

I can&#039;t see myself ever needing or desiring an uber-scooter.  But a few years ago I would have said the same about a motorcycle.  Who knows what tomorrow will bring.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2019/11/riding-a-heavy-motorcycle/#comment-45609">Jim</a>.</p>
<p>A scooter will definitely remain in my life for the foreseeable future for all the reasons you mention.  For now, the motorcycle seems a short-term addition until body or mind indicates it is too big and heavy to deal with.  Right now I can manage the K75 without trouble save for developing some motorcycle-specific habits unique to the bike.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see myself ever needing or desiring an uber-scooter.  But a few years ago I would have said the same about a motorcycle.  Who knows what tomorrow will bring.</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Nov 2019 01:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2019/11/riding-a-heavy-motorcycle/#comment-45608&quot;&gt;Shirley Hackman&lt;/a&gt;.

One of your comments sums up EXACTLY what the difference is between my Vespa and the BMW K75 -- &quot;Wandering down the paved country roads my mind is focused only on the ride.&quot;  That&#039;s it.  When I&#039;m on the BMW it is about the ride, the movement over the highway, the machine.  I&#039;m not as focused on the landscape, stopping to make photographs or breathing in the world like I am with the Vespa.  No wonder it feels so different.  Thank you for describing it so well.

Foot down in thin air -- that&#039;s no fun.  I can imagine that happening easily if I&#039;m not paying attention or can&#039;t see the ground.  The world isn&#039;t always smooth.  And the side stand on the K75 seems woefully inadequate.  My habit is to put the motorcycle in neutral, turn off the engine, put the side stand down and then dismount.  A few times I put it in first gear for fear it would roll off the stand.  Have to fine tune my behaviors with the bike.  But as you say, when I&#039;m riding the BMW, there is a smile on my face!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2019/11/riding-a-heavy-motorcycle/#comment-45608">Shirley Hackman</a>.</p>
<p>One of your comments sums up EXACTLY what the difference is between my Vespa and the BMW K75 &#8212; &#8220;Wandering down the paved country roads my mind is focused only on the ride.&#8221;  That&#8217;s it.  When I&#8217;m on the BMW it is about the ride, the movement over the highway, the machine.  I&#8217;m not as focused on the landscape, stopping to make photographs or breathing in the world like I am with the Vespa.  No wonder it feels so different.  Thank you for describing it so well.</p>
<p>Foot down in thin air &#8212; that&#8217;s no fun.  I can imagine that happening easily if I&#8217;m not paying attention or can&#8217;t see the ground.  The world isn&#8217;t always smooth.  And the side stand on the K75 seems woefully inadequate.  My habit is to put the motorcycle in neutral, turn off the engine, put the side stand down and then dismount.  A few times I put it in first gear for fear it would roll off the stand.  Have to fine tune my behaviors with the bike.  But as you say, when I&#8217;m riding the BMW, there is a smile on my face!</p>
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