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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2017 05:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41945&quot;&gt;Vasco&lt;/a&gt;.

Winter here can feel relentless.  The short days and cold temperatures are draining.  And if you add snow it is down right oppressive unless you are a skier or other winter enthusiast.

I&#039;ll be on the lookout for those times when riding can be a pleasure and adventure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41945">Vasco</a>.</p>
<p>Winter here can feel relentless.  The short days and cold temperatures are draining.  And if you add snow it is down right oppressive unless you are a skier or other winter enthusiast.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be on the lookout for those times when riding can be a pleasure and adventure.</p>
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		By: Vasco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2017 11:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve, 
Great post again, thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Riding 3 scooters and living in Lisbon, Portugal, is a privilege: mild temperatures in the winter (today 9ºC to 20ºC) and less rainy days than we should. 
Despite these mild temperatures, I love traveling to the mountains in the winter where we can find snow and tricky conditions to ride.
But it is different to face these difficult conditions every day. Sometimes your mind is just not prepared for it.
If you can go on holiday, or on a  previously selected weekend, in which we have the opportunity to tune gear, body and spirit to the hard conditions of the rigorous winter... that´s a pleasure and an adventure.


Vasco]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
Great post again, thanks for sharing your thoughts.<br />
Riding 3 scooters and living in Lisbon, Portugal, is a privilege: mild temperatures in the winter (today 9ºC to 20ºC) and less rainy days than we should.<br />
Despite these mild temperatures, I love traveling to the mountains in the winter where we can find snow and tricky conditions to ride.<br />
But it is different to face these difficult conditions every day. Sometimes your mind is just not prepared for it.<br />
If you can go on holiday, or on a  previously selected weekend, in which we have the opportunity to tune gear, body and spirit to the hard conditions of the rigorous winter&#8230; that´s a pleasure and an adventure.</p>
<p>Vasco</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2017 03:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41913&quot;&gt;Dave/fledermaus&lt;/a&gt;.

The muffs certainly add a layer of ugly to the Vespa.  No argument there.  But they&#039;re SO effective in keeping the cold at bay.  So I&#039;ve swallowed hard and use them.  Considered putting them on today actually but I think I&#039;ll wait a bit longer.

Air hitting my neck is the worst.  Feels like a knife.  I&#039;m careful to keep my balaclava tucked in tight to the jacket.

As far as electric gear goes -- the temperature where I want it keeps going up and up.  If I don&#039;t use the gloves, insoles, and likely a vest soon, I would be parking the scooter at 40F.  Not ready for that line.  Yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41913">Dave/fledermaus</a>.</p>
<p>The muffs certainly add a layer of ugly to the Vespa.  No argument there.  But they&#8217;re SO effective in keeping the cold at bay.  So I&#8217;ve swallowed hard and use them.  Considered putting them on today actually but I think I&#8217;ll wait a bit longer.</p>
<p>Air hitting my neck is the worst.  Feels like a knife.  I&#8217;m careful to keep my balaclava tucked in tight to the jacket.</p>
<p>As far as electric gear goes &#8212; the temperature where I want it keeps going up and up.  If I don&#8217;t use the gloves, insoles, and likely a vest soon, I would be parking the scooter at 40F.  Not ready for that line.  Yet.</p>
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		By: Dave/fledermaus		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41913</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s definitely more of a struggle with the cold. First, to check the weather....dry surfaces, not too cold (we&#039;ve had 16 degrees overnight already...brrr!). Gearing up takes more time..... Rode into work this morning at 25 degrees, no problem.  I don&#039;t like the aesthetics of muffs, but my fingers are starting to get chilled with my Corazzos.  Discovered another vulnerability, which is the gap between my buff and helmet. Not much, but I can feel the line of cold, which gets more annoying with time.  Solved that with borrowing my wife&#039;s fleece neck gaiter. Still haven&#039;t put the insulated liner in my riding pants yet, so there&#039;s wiggle room there.

Electrical gear is somewhat tempting, but I&#039;ve made it my line in the sand. If I have to plug in for cold weather riding, I&#039;m going to park...for now. And I&#039;m not getting younger either...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s definitely more of a struggle with the cold. First, to check the weather&#8230;.dry surfaces, not too cold (we&#8217;ve had 16 degrees overnight already&#8230;brrr!). Gearing up takes more time&#8230;.. Rode into work this morning at 25 degrees, no problem.  I don&#8217;t like the aesthetics of muffs, but my fingers are starting to get chilled with my Corazzos.  Discovered another vulnerability, which is the gap between my buff and helmet. Not much, but I can feel the line of cold, which gets more annoying with time.  Solved that with borrowing my wife&#8217;s fleece neck gaiter. Still haven&#8217;t put the insulated liner in my riding pants yet, so there&#8217;s wiggle room there.</p>
<p>Electrical gear is somewhat tempting, but I&#8217;ve made it my line in the sand. If I have to plug in for cold weather riding, I&#8217;m going to park&#8230;for now. And I&#8217;m not getting younger either&#8230;</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2017 20:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41909&quot;&gt;Robert&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the information Robert about the jacket.  I&#039;ll add it to my search. My arms don&#039;t seem to ever get cold.  But at times, especially after a hearty breakfast on the road, I feel chilled to the core.  A vest might help.  Once my core cools the hands, feet and toes aren&#039;t far behind despite electrics.

Dust!  The bane of groups of riders on dirt.  I can understand dropping out of that mess and going off on your own.  If that was the cause.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41909">Robert</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the information Robert about the jacket.  I&#8217;ll add it to my search. My arms don&#8217;t seem to ever get cold.  But at times, especially after a hearty breakfast on the road, I feel chilled to the core.  A vest might help.  Once my core cools the hands, feet and toes aren&#8217;t far behind despite electrics.</p>
<p>Dust!  The bane of groups of riders on dirt.  I can understand dropping out of that mess and going off on your own.  If that was the cause.</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2017 20:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41908&quot;&gt;Karl U&lt;/a&gt;.

The march of time no doubt is coloring both our perceptions and tolerance of cold.  I suppose I&#039;m struggling a bit with that realization.  It was similar last year at the beginning of the cold season and then either my body or mind adapted.  Time will tell if that&#039;s the case again.

Stay safe and have fun on the rides you will make!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41908">Karl U</a>.</p>
<p>The march of time no doubt is coloring both our perceptions and tolerance of cold.  I suppose I&#8217;m struggling a bit with that realization.  It was similar last year at the beginning of the cold season and then either my body or mind adapted.  Time will tell if that&#8217;s the case again.</p>
<p>Stay safe and have fun on the rides you will make!</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2017 18:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41900&quot;&gt;Steve Williams&lt;/a&gt;.

Lynne&#039;s jacket is a ANSAi Mobile Warming (sic), made in Bangladesh BTW. It is a jacket with sleeves, but heats only the chest and abdomen. She likes it, with a riding jacket over top. Personally I wouldn&#039;t have a heated garment that doesn&#039;t heat the arms, since that&#039;s where I get a wind blast on all my motos, but I have known several people who are happy with an electric vest, one reason being they pack so small.
Re. yesterday&#039;s ride, I dropped out about 1/3 of the way due to dust, not cold. Enjoyed my own little ride then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41900">Steve Williams</a>.</p>
<p>Lynne&#8217;s jacket is a ANSAi Mobile Warming (sic), made in Bangladesh BTW. It is a jacket with sleeves, but heats only the chest and abdomen. She likes it, with a riding jacket over top. Personally I wouldn&#8217;t have a heated garment that doesn&#8217;t heat the arms, since that&#8217;s where I get a wind blast on all my motos, but I have known several people who are happy with an electric vest, one reason being they pack so small.<br />
Re. yesterday&#8217;s ride, I dropped out about 1/3 of the way due to dust, not cold. Enjoyed my own little ride then.</p>
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		By: Karl U		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2017 18:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi, Steve,
My tolerance for cold weather riding is decreasing. I don&#039;t really have to worry about snow or slush out here, but I can remember just a few years ago I rode with a group every Saturday morning without fail, and the temps were anywhere from 28 to 35 degrees. It goes without saying that those rides were with layers, and electrified gloves, socks and vest. Makes me cold to just think about it! 

Now, if the temp is below 45 degrees I take the same routes, but in the warmth of my car. Don&#039;t know if it&#039;s age, or a modicum of weight loss, but it really does get to me.

But, the temps around noon to three o&#039;clock are usually very nice. And, with my wariness of riding even on wet roads out here, the hazards of snow and ice are way beyond my limits...but it is interesting to see and hear of your outings. Good luck!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Steve,<br />
My tolerance for cold weather riding is decreasing. I don&#8217;t really have to worry about snow or slush out here, but I can remember just a few years ago I rode with a group every Saturday morning without fail, and the temps were anywhere from 28 to 35 degrees. It goes without saying that those rides were with layers, and electrified gloves, socks and vest. Makes me cold to just think about it! </p>
<p>Now, if the temp is below 45 degrees I take the same routes, but in the warmth of my car. Don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s age, or a modicum of weight loss, but it really does get to me.</p>
<p>But, the temps around noon to three o&#8217;clock are usually very nice. And, with my wariness of riding even on wet roads out here, the hazards of snow and ice are way beyond my limits&#8230;but it is interesting to see and hear of your outings. Good luck!</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2017 13:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41890&quot;&gt;domingo chang&lt;/a&gt;.

The URAL allows you to play in snow.  For the Vespa, that&#039;s a far trickier situation.  I&#039;ve ridden in it but it&#039;s tiring to have my ass gripping the saddle...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41890">domingo chang</a>.</p>
<p>The URAL allows you to play in snow.  For the Vespa, that&#8217;s a far trickier situation.  I&#8217;ve ridden in it but it&#8217;s tiring to have my ass gripping the saddle&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2017 13:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41889&quot;&gt;David Eakin&lt;/a&gt;.

I second the importance of the handlebar muffs.  Without them I wouldn&#039;t be doing much riding at all below 30F.  I have the Tucano Urbanos but the Hippo Hands are good too.  Just don&#039;t look as pretty.

I&#039;ve been told the apron would be a big plus to my winter riding.  I&#039;ve just not been able to get past the idea that it would be really complicated. But more and more it seems like something I should consider.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2017/11/vespa-in-winter/#comment-41889">David Eakin</a>.</p>
<p>I second the importance of the handlebar muffs.  Without them I wouldn&#8217;t be doing much riding at all below 30F.  I have the Tucano Urbanos but the Hippo Hands are good too.  Just don&#8217;t look as pretty.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been told the apron would be a big plus to my winter riding.  I&#8217;ve just not been able to get past the idea that it would be really complicated. But more and more it seems like something I should consider.</p>
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