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	Comments on: Deer Strategies for Riders	</title>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/08/strategies-deer/#comment-9741</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2014 02:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/08/strategies-deer/#comment-9732&quot;&gt;Dave+(fledermaus)&lt;/a&gt;.

Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are similar in their deer-vehicle issues.  There&#039;s not much you can do other than try and minimize the risk but I know how hard that is if you want to ride at dusk and on into the night.  Slow helps but those beasts can appear out of nowhere...  Full alert is the watch word for night riding in deer country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/08/strategies-deer/#comment-9732">Dave+(fledermaus)</a>.</p>
<p>Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are similar in their deer-vehicle issues.  There&#8217;s not much you can do other than try and minimize the risk but I know how hard that is if you want to ride at dusk and on into the night.  Slow helps but those beasts can appear out of nowhere&#8230;  Full alert is the watch word for night riding in deer country.</p>
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		By: Dave+(fledermaus)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2014 02:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We just lost a rider around here in a nighttime deer-motorcycle collision.  Wisconsin has a pretty good-sized deer herd, so not surprising.  It&#039;s frustrating for me, because I just love riding at dusk and beyond.....it seems quiet, and I&#039;m swallowed in a cocoon of darkness. On the other hand, it&#039;s deer time, and they&#039;re maddeningly hard to see in the dark. It&#039;s a risk I have a hard time taking.  As a result, most of my night time riding is in the city, and as I head through the mile or so of countryside to get home, I&#039;m on full alert.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just lost a rider around here in a nighttime deer-motorcycle collision.  Wisconsin has a pretty good-sized deer herd, so not surprising.  It&#8217;s frustrating for me, because I just love riding at dusk and beyond&#8230;..it seems quiet, and I&#8217;m swallowed in a cocoon of darkness. On the other hand, it&#8217;s deer time, and they&#8217;re maddeningly hard to see in the dark. It&#8217;s a risk I have a hard time taking.  As a result, most of my night time riding is in the city, and as I head through the mile or so of countryside to get home, I&#8217;m on full alert.</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/08/strategies-deer/#comment-9461</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2014 16:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reminds me of something my dad used to say about falling off a roof.  &quot;It&#039;s not the fall that&#039;s the problem, it&#039;s the sudden stop that gets you.&quot;

I agree with you Paul about the rider choice -- we each must decide what kind of risk we are willing to take.  Within the boundaries of the law of course!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of something my dad used to say about falling off a roof.  &#8220;It&#8217;s not the fall that&#8217;s the problem, it&#8217;s the sudden stop that gets you.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with you Paul about the rider choice &#8212; we each must decide what kind of risk we are willing to take.  Within the boundaries of the law of course!</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/08/strategies-deer/#comment-9460</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2014 16:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/08/strategies-deer/#comment-9409&quot;&gt;Sandi+Roush&lt;/a&gt;.

I used to have deer whistles on my old pick up truck.  People made fun of me about them but I never hit a deer.

Great advice on the see one, there will be more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/08/strategies-deer/#comment-9409">Sandi+Roush</a>.</p>
<p>I used to have deer whistles on my old pick up truck.  People made fun of me about them but I never hit a deer.</p>
<p>Great advice on the see one, there will be more.</p>
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		By: Paul Smith		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/08/strategies-deer/#comment-9428</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To quote (or possibly paraphrase) motoring icon Jeremy Clarkson; &quot;speed never killed anyone. Suddenly stopping, that&#039;s a different story.&quot; That applies with vehicle collisions of any sort. Yes, going fast is fun and exhilarating, but it falls on the vehicle operator to consider whether excessive speed is worth the risk of a sudden stop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote (or possibly paraphrase) motoring icon Jeremy Clarkson; &#8220;speed never killed anyone. Suddenly stopping, that&#8217;s a different story.&#8221; That applies with vehicle collisions of any sort. Yes, going fast is fun and exhilarating, but it falls on the vehicle operator to consider whether excessive speed is worth the risk of a sudden stop.</p>
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		By: Sandi+Roush		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2014 01:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My Dad is a firm believer in the deer whistles you can put on your bike.  There has to be two and mounted on the front but they are hardly noticeable.    He has been riding for a lot of years and has never hit one so that&#039;s a plus.  

I was riding one day and a fawn trotted out in front of me, heard me coming and became a cartoon character in the road - couldn&#039;t get traction and was running in place!  Seeing deer make me slow down (at least for awhile) and I also follow the rule that if you see one, there are always more.   

Ride safe!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Dad is a firm believer in the deer whistles you can put on your bike.  There has to be two and mounted on the front but they are hardly noticeable.    He has been riding for a lot of years and has never hit one so that&#8217;s a plus.  </p>
<p>I was riding one day and a fawn trotted out in front of me, heard me coming and became a cartoon character in the road &#8211; couldn&#8217;t get traction and was running in place!  Seeing deer make me slow down (at least for awhile) and I also follow the rule that if you see one, there are always more.   </p>
<p>Ride safe!</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/08/strategies-deer/#comment-9383</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2014 23:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/08/strategies-deer/#comment-9378&quot;&gt;Deb&lt;/a&gt;.

Great ideas for thinking about deer as a rider.  Remembering where there&#039;s one there&#039;s more is important.  Anymore I&#039;m not sure how easy it is to divide city from country folks, at least around here.  But anyone seeing those deer crossing signs should take heed if they&#039;re on two wheels!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/08/strategies-deer/#comment-9378">Deb</a>.</p>
<p>Great ideas for thinking about deer as a rider.  Remembering where there&#8217;s one there&#8217;s more is important.  Anymore I&#8217;m not sure how easy it is to divide city from country folks, at least around here.  But anyone seeing those deer crossing signs should take heed if they&#8217;re on two wheels!</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/08/strategies-deer/#comment-9382</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2014 23:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/08/strategies-deer/#comment-9373&quot;&gt;Fred Beach&lt;/a&gt;.

Fred, thanks for commenting on your encounter with the wallaby.  I&#039;m not sure if people&#039;s questions concerning whether an accident could have been avoided is fueled by their own fears and hopes that there is something they can do to minimize risk or if it&#039;s just insensitivity. 

A crash of any sort is trauma enough to have anyone question themselves.  Having someone add to that by asking if you could have avoided it is just mean.

As far as the Harley goes, what made me curious was the distance.  100 yards is a long way.  You would need to go pretty fast to slide that far.  

A goose hit would be bad on a Vespa...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/08/strategies-deer/#comment-9373">Fred Beach</a>.</p>
<p>Fred, thanks for commenting on your encounter with the wallaby.  I&#8217;m not sure if people&#8217;s questions concerning whether an accident could have been avoided is fueled by their own fears and hopes that there is something they can do to minimize risk or if it&#8217;s just insensitivity. </p>
<p>A crash of any sort is trauma enough to have anyone question themselves.  Having someone add to that by asking if you could have avoided it is just mean.</p>
<p>As far as the Harley goes, what made me curious was the distance.  100 yards is a long way.  You would need to go pretty fast to slide that far.  </p>
<p>A goose hit would be bad on a Vespa&#8230;</p>
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		By: Deb		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2014 13:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a rural back road rider myself I have to say that learning the habits of white tail deer has definitely been high on my list of safety awareness. 

Those city dwellers who venture out into the countryside need to know a few things and one right off is that they tend to travel in herds of 2-4. 

Also, if you see a fawn, there is likely a mother right behind it. 

They also tend to follow stream beds or cross over roads to get to them, so if you are riding along a creek or stream be especially watchful.

November is &quot;rutting season&quot; when the bucks are racing through the countryside looking for a mate, so they will wildly run hither and yon and many will wind up dead along highways or appear anywhere at any time out in front of you, cruising happily out in &quot;the sticks&quot; as you put it!

Beautiful? Yes. I ride often down into the valley in the evening just to watch them gather in the fields beside the river. They are a delight to behold!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a rural back road rider myself I have to say that learning the habits of white tail deer has definitely been high on my list of safety awareness. </p>
<p>Those city dwellers who venture out into the countryside need to know a few things and one right off is that they tend to travel in herds of 2-4. </p>
<p>Also, if you see a fawn, there is likely a mother right behind it. </p>
<p>They also tend to follow stream beds or cross over roads to get to them, so if you are riding along a creek or stream be especially watchful.</p>
<p>November is &#8220;rutting season&#8221; when the bucks are racing through the countryside looking for a mate, so they will wildly run hither and yon and many will wind up dead along highways or appear anywhere at any time out in front of you, cruising happily out in &#8220;the sticks&#8221; as you put it!</p>
<p>Beautiful? Yes. I ride often down into the valley in the evening just to watch them gather in the fields beside the river. They are a delight to behold!</p>
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		By: Fred Beach		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 01:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am the Australian rider Steve mentioned who hit the wallaby. That led to hospital time and two operations and a very phobic rider.

Three different people asked if I couldn&#039;t have avoided it. I guess the assumption is that it is always the riders fault for not being good enough.  e.g. being able to slide a Harley for a 100 yards as opposed to other possible and more catastrophic outcomes.

Other clowns (while I was still in plaster and on crutches) wanted to know how the wallaby was. I started telling them it was delicious. 

Last comment, an old school friend in Ohio told me about her husband hitting a goose. Lots of things to hit out there...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the Australian rider Steve mentioned who hit the wallaby. That led to hospital time and two operations and a very phobic rider.</p>
<p>Three different people asked if I couldn&#8217;t have avoided it. I guess the assumption is that it is always the riders fault for not being good enough.  e.g. being able to slide a Harley for a 100 yards as opposed to other possible and more catastrophic outcomes.</p>
<p>Other clowns (while I was still in plaster and on crutches) wanted to know how the wallaby was. I started telling them it was delicious. </p>
<p>Last comment, an old school friend in Ohio told me about her husband hitting a goose. Lots of things to hit out there&#8230;</p>
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