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		By: Winter Vespa Ride - Scooter in the Sticks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Winter Vespa Ride - Scooter in the Sticks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2022 05:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] surface in the front of the house, I deemed it time to go for a winter Vespa ride. Over the years, winter riding has become almost normal. Before retirement, daily commuting on the scooter often meant navigating [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] surface in the front of the house, I deemed it time to go for a winter Vespa ride. Over the years, winter riding has become almost normal. Before retirement, daily commuting on the scooter often meant navigating [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/01/more-reasons-to-not-ride-vespa-in-winter/#comment-44644</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2019 22:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/01/more-reasons-to-not-ride-vespa-in-winter/#comment-44642&quot;&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt;.

The rust on my Vespa is a direct result of harsh condition use over many years and a near complete disregard on my part for cleaning or caring for the machine.  So I&#039;m not troubled by it.  But I have seen photos of much newer scooters in salt-free climates that have terrible rust issues.  It&#039;s shocking enough that I wonder if I&#039;m not getting the whole story. Hard to trust the reality of things when you don&#039;t have all the information.

Snow riding is challenging but I have to admit that as I get older my tolerance of the cold along with interest in going out to ride is fading.  I have some GripStuds for my winter tires but am not sure I&#039;m going to install them.  I may just turn into a fair weather rider...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/01/more-reasons-to-not-ride-vespa-in-winter/#comment-44642">Dave</a>.</p>
<p>The rust on my Vespa is a direct result of harsh condition use over many years and a near complete disregard on my part for cleaning or caring for the machine.  So I&#8217;m not troubled by it.  But I have seen photos of much newer scooters in salt-free climates that have terrible rust issues.  It&#8217;s shocking enough that I wonder if I&#8217;m not getting the whole story. Hard to trust the reality of things when you don&#8217;t have all the information.</p>
<p>Snow riding is challenging but I have to admit that as I get older my tolerance of the cold along with interest in going out to ride is fading.  I have some GripStuds for my winter tires but am not sure I&#8217;m going to install them.  I may just turn into a fair weather rider&#8230;</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2019 04:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seeing that rust really gets my blood boiling. I won&#039;t get started on things like &#039;premium brand&#039; and how dealers have found rust on models before they have even left the showrooms but these need treating as soon as you leave the shop.
Probably a bit late for yours but I sprayed my underneath with Waxoyl and all over (inside and out) with ACF-50. Also, over here in the UK, there is a website that sells mudguard extenders to help stop the spray from the tyres. Not sure what the P+P is like from here to you (bloody expensive from the US to Scotland, I know that!) but there might be dealers over your way that import them.
Here are the web pages just in case
https://scooterlab.uk/product/vespa-gts-gtv-sluk-guard-ultra/
https://scooterlab.uk/product/vespa-gts-sluk-tail/
(Check they are compatible with your model as the newer ones have slightly different mudguards and rear ends)
As for riding in the snow, I have never tried it on my auto. Been riding Vespas and Lambrettas since 1986 and just got on with but just not sure with the GTS. All this ABS, traction control and (lack of) clutch makes me more wary of riding in it. I may be wrong in thinking that way but, tbh, I have no urge to find out!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing that rust really gets my blood boiling. I won&#8217;t get started on things like &#8216;premium brand&#8217; and how dealers have found rust on models before they have even left the showrooms but these need treating as soon as you leave the shop.<br />
Probably a bit late for yours but I sprayed my underneath with Waxoyl and all over (inside and out) with ACF-50. Also, over here in the UK, there is a website that sells mudguard extenders to help stop the spray from the tyres. Not sure what the P+P is like from here to you (bloody expensive from the US to Scotland, I know that!) but there might be dealers over your way that import them.<br />
Here are the web pages just in case<br />
<a href="https://scooterlab.uk/product/vespa-gts-gtv-sluk-guard-ultra/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://scooterlab.uk/product/vespa-gts-gtv-sluk-guard-ultra/</a><br />
<a href="https://scooterlab.uk/product/vespa-gts-sluk-tail/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://scooterlab.uk/product/vespa-gts-sluk-tail/</a><br />
(Check they are compatible with your model as the newer ones have slightly different mudguards and rear ends)<br />
As for riding in the snow, I have never tried it on my auto. Been riding Vespas and Lambrettas since 1986 and just got on with but just not sure with the GTS. All this ABS, traction control and (lack of) clutch makes me more wary of riding in it. I may be wrong in thinking that way but, tbh, I have no urge to find out!</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/01/more-reasons-to-not-ride-vespa-in-winter/#comment-44453</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2018 17:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/01/more-reasons-to-not-ride-vespa-in-winter/#comment-44451&quot;&gt;Laurence Alter&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, I suppose the bigger joke is riding in snow to begin with.  Even aggressive winter tires only do a little to improved traction.  Chains and/or studs would be the only thing that would make a remarkable difference in traction.

That said, the real secret (in my opinion) to riding in snow and ice is speed.  And by speed I mean slow, slower and stop.  I&#039;m fortunate that I live in an area with many options to get from A to B with many of them extremely lightly traveled.  So I can go slow, stop, push on by foot, pull over to puzzle how I&#039;ll get through something and generally not have to worry about traffic.  For many in serious suburban and urban areas this just isn&#039;t an option when traffic flow is forcing you on or will run you down.

Regarding tires, the winter Heidenau tires I have a big and sticky.  So even on dry, frozen pavement they have a lot more traction that regular tires.  The aggressive tread pattern in good in slush and wet snow.  On hard packed snow and ice -- nothing helps.  Forward motion is a dicey endeavor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/01/more-reasons-to-not-ride-vespa-in-winter/#comment-44451">Laurence Alter</a>.</p>
<p>Well, I suppose the bigger joke is riding in snow to begin with.  Even aggressive winter tires only do a little to improved traction.  Chains and/or studs would be the only thing that would make a remarkable difference in traction.</p>
<p>That said, the real secret (in my opinion) to riding in snow and ice is speed.  And by speed I mean slow, slower and stop.  I&#8217;m fortunate that I live in an area with many options to get from A to B with many of them extremely lightly traveled.  So I can go slow, stop, push on by foot, pull over to puzzle how I&#8217;ll get through something and generally not have to worry about traffic.  For many in serious suburban and urban areas this just isn&#8217;t an option when traffic flow is forcing you on or will run you down.</p>
<p>Regarding tires, the winter Heidenau tires I have a big and sticky.  So even on dry, frozen pavement they have a lot more traction that regular tires.  The aggressive tread pattern in good in slush and wet snow.  On hard packed snow and ice &#8212; nothing helps.  Forward motion is a dicey endeavor.</p>
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		By: Laurence Alter		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/01/more-reasons-to-not-ride-vespa-in-winter/#comment-44451</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laurence Alter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2018 08:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hope a 2nd comment is fine (just left one before). I look at the Vespa tires, and they seem a joke for ice/snow conditions (going on what is standard issue from dealer). How do you work around it?

Thanks in advance.

Laurence Alter]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope a 2nd comment is fine (just left one before). I look at the Vespa tires, and they seem a joke for ice/snow conditions (going on what is standard issue from dealer). How do you work around it?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
<p>Laurence Alter</p>
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		By: Pat Roger		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/01/more-reasons-to-not-ride-vespa-in-winter/#comment-8407</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat Roger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 07:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really liked your blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked your blog.</p>
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		By: Peter Nicolson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Nicolson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 07:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amazing blog. Please keep going.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing blog. Please keep going.</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2014/01/more-reasons-to-not-ride-vespa-in-winter/#comment-8373</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2014 07:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[bob skoot:  I am lucky that the winters here can be dry and the roads largely navigable.  We don&#039;t often get those sheens of ice that you do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wanted to ride in the morning but I see more snow in the forecast.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bob skoot:  I am lucky that the winters here can be dry and the roads largely navigable.  We don&#8217;t often get those sheens of ice that you do.</p>
<p>I wanted to ride in the morning but I see more snow in the forecast.</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2014 07:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rick:  The cold hasn&#039;t gotten the best of me I guess though on any given day it feels like it does.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ll just keep rolling the scooter out of the garage and ride until I can&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick:  The cold hasn&#8217;t gotten the best of me I guess though on any given day it feels like it does.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just keep rolling the scooter out of the garage and ride until I can&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2014 07:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RichardM:  Dreary looking is often more exciting for me because of the wider range of photographic options.  Blue sky and sunshine is not my preferred photo weather...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RichardM:  Dreary looking is often more exciting for me because of the wider range of photographic options.  Blue sky and sunshine is not my preferred photo weather&#8230;</p>
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