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		By: Steve Williams		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2007/08/scooterless-in-city/#comment-1479</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[jenni:  My first thoughts parallel yours but with a bit of distance from the trip I am beginning to think about a scooter trip to New York....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;dru:  New York is a great place and while I am not a city person there is much to attract me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is hard to watch your kids move away.  Our oldest daughter still lives nearby but one never knows where their lives will carry them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;pitchertaker:  It wasn&#039;t my idea.  Honest!  Aleta chose White Castle because she has heard about them but never visited one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is nothing like the ones I frequented as a kid.  It is now McDonalds with greasy little burgers.  No soul in the physical surroundings.  Just a cash generation enterprise with no human patina.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;bill:  I am going to test my city nerves someday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;paul:  Thanks!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;demonio:  We are nowhere near the acceptance of scooters here in the US as you are in Europe.  there remains a huge mental barrier consisting of fear, good hair, unwrinkled clothes, and how to not break the social norms of living on four wheels.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;kano:  there is just no accounting for thinking processes...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;cody:  Stay tuned.  Sometime I will make the ride to NYC.  Can&#039;t be that bad can it???&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;sundance:  Once I got off the bridges and expressways and into Queens I saw many scooters.  I just need to figure out the least crazy way into the city...  Maybe a ferry across rather than the bridges.  Huge potholes about on the roads in.  they rattle the hell out of my truck.  Would eat the Vespa.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;conchscooter:  Last night while riding I was thinking about how much more difficult it is to just pull over and sleep.  I was lookiing at a corn field and thinking I could run the scooter down a row about 50 yards and spread out a sleeping bag and go to sleep.  Then I thought of all the midnight harvesting, Furadan pesticide, and just sort of groaned...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;eldercattus:  A hammock!  What a great idea.  I will have to give that some thought.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jenni:  My first thoughts parallel yours but with a bit of distance from the trip I am beginning to think about a scooter trip to New York&#8230;.</p>
<p>dru:  New York is a great place and while I am not a city person there is much to attract me.</p>
<p>It is hard to watch your kids move away.  Our oldest daughter still lives nearby but one never knows where their lives will carry them.</p>
<p>pitchertaker:  It wasn&#8217;t my idea.  Honest!  Aleta chose White Castle because she has heard about them but never visited one.</p>
<p>It is nothing like the ones I frequented as a kid.  It is now McDonalds with greasy little burgers.  No soul in the physical surroundings.  Just a cash generation enterprise with no human patina.</p>
<p>bill:  I am going to test my city nerves someday.</p>
<p>paul:  Thanks!</p>
<p>demonio:  We are nowhere near the acceptance of scooters here in the US as you are in Europe.  there remains a huge mental barrier consisting of fear, good hair, unwrinkled clothes, and how to not break the social norms of living on four wheels.</p>
<p>kano:  there is just no accounting for thinking processes&#8230;</p>
<p>cody:  Stay tuned.  Sometime I will make the ride to NYC.  Can&#8217;t be that bad can it???</p>
<p>sundance:  Once I got off the bridges and expressways and into Queens I saw many scooters.  I just need to figure out the least crazy way into the city&#8230;  Maybe a ferry across rather than the bridges.  Huge potholes about on the roads in.  they rattle the hell out of my truck.  Would eat the Vespa.</p>
<p>conchscooter:  Last night while riding I was thinking about how much more difficult it is to just pull over and sleep.  I was lookiing at a corn field and thinking I could run the scooter down a row about 50 yards and spread out a sleeping bag and go to sleep.  Then I thought of all the midnight harvesting, Furadan pesticide, and just sort of groaned&#8230;</p>
<p>eldercattus:  A hammock!  What a great idea.  I will have to give that some thought.</p>
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		By: Eldercattus		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2007/08/scooterless-in-city/#comment-1478</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 02:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just as a by-the-way, I carry an ultralight hammock with me on my Burgman &#039;scooter&#039;.  It weighs 1 lb, and I can attach it anywhere between two strong upright &#039;things.&#039;  For instance, from your Ranger cab door to a lamp post ... two trees ... fence post &#038; my scooter&#039;s inside handlebar.  It&#039;s strangely comfortable. A big microfiber towel to cover.  Rain?  Get back in the truck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as a by-the-way, I carry an ultralight hammock with me on my Burgman &#8216;scooter&#8217;.  It weighs 1 lb, and I can attach it anywhere between two strong upright &#8216;things.&#8217;  For instance, from your Ranger cab door to a lamp post &#8230; two trees &#8230; fence post &amp; my scooter&#8217;s inside handlebar.  It&#8217;s strangely comfortable. A big microfiber towel to cover.  Rain?  Get back in the truck.</p>
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		By: Conchscooter		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2007/08/scooterless-in-city/#comment-1477</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good luck sleeping on the vespa when exhaustion overtakes you!  Cars do have their miserable place...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck sleeping on the vespa when exhaustion overtakes you!  Cars do have their miserable place&#8230;</p>
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		By: S u n d a n c e		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2007/08/scooterless-in-city/#comment-1476</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I used to work in NYC before I had my scooter, and while it is an exotic jungle of traffic, I would rather ride than drive.  Of course, I drive in a metro area now (very light in comparison).  I think metro areas are the ideal environment for scooters because they can keep pace with traffic, and often can move through congestion easier.  Diverse world, diverse perspectives.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And btw, you are a natural at this blog thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work in NYC before I had my scooter, and while it is an exotic jungle of traffic, I would rather ride than drive.  Of course, I drive in a metro area now (very light in comparison).  I think metro areas are the ideal environment for scooters because they can keep pace with traffic, and often can move through congestion easier.  Diverse world, diverse perspectives.  </p>
<p>And btw, you are a natural at this blog thing.</p>
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		By: CodyandMichelle		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2007/08/scooterless-in-city/#comment-1475</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a good Dad!&lt;br /&gt;    You couldn&#039;t pay me enough to go to NY, and I really would not go in a Vespa...you chose wisely grasshopper:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a good Dad!<br />    You couldn&#8217;t pay me enough to go to NY, and I really would not go in a Vespa&#8230;you chose wisely grasshopper:)</p>
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		By: Kano		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2007/08/scooterless-in-city/#comment-1474</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems like it&#039;s usually the young ones who ride without helmets. They think their invincible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like it&#8217;s usually the young ones who ride without helmets. They think their invincible.</p>
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		By: Demonio Pellegrino		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2007/08/scooterless-in-city/#comment-1473</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Demonio Pellegrino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Problem is that for many commuters who must move around in big cities, the scooter is the only option, if you don&#039;t want to be trapped in a car for hours. I ride my scooter every day to work, 50km return journey. It takes me 40 minutes in total. If I was to do the same journey by car, it would take me around 1.5 hours in the morning, and 45 minutes at night. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess the scooter immediately becomes a valuable city companion in that case...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the motorbike instead is for my leisure, or longer journeys...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By the way, in Europe it is now compulsory everywhere to wear a helmet. unfortunately, you still see a lot of people going around without protecting jackets, or gloves or trousers...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem is that for many commuters who must move around in big cities, the scooter is the only option, if you don&#8217;t want to be trapped in a car for hours. I ride my scooter every day to work, 50km return journey. It takes me 40 minutes in total. If I was to do the same journey by car, it would take me around 1.5 hours in the morning, and 45 minutes at night. </p>
<p>I guess the scooter immediately becomes a valuable city companion in that case&#8230;</p>
<p>the motorbike instead is for my leisure, or longer journeys&#8230;</p>
<p>By the way, in Europe it is now compulsory everywhere to wear a helmet. unfortunately, you still see a lot of people going around without protecting jackets, or gloves or trousers&#8230;</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2007/08/scooterless-in-city/#comment-1469</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[sfw3: that&#039;s a personal and thoughtful write up.  it&#039;s a milemarker in aleta&#039;s life - and your&#039;s and kim&#039;s too.  i really like enzo he seems sincere and honest.  so that&#039;s good for aleta. she looks like her mum standing on the truck rear. driving late at night in the rain is difficult at any age.  try THAT on a vespa.  there will be no joy.  yes 80mph on a harley with no protection. that&#039;s a man with no family to support. it&#039;s a little selfish as well as romantic.  you know live hard die young and all that. that&#039;s fine when you are 23.  not fine when your kids are at home.&lt;br /&gt;paul]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sfw3: that&#8217;s a personal and thoughtful write up.  it&#8217;s a milemarker in aleta&#8217;s life &#8211; and your&#8217;s and kim&#8217;s too.  i really like enzo he seems sincere and honest.  so that&#8217;s good for aleta. she looks like her mum standing on the truck rear. driving late at night in the rain is difficult at any age.  try THAT on a vespa.  there will be no joy.  yes 80mph on a harley with no protection. that&#8217;s a man with no family to support. it&#8217;s a little selfish as well as romantic.  you know live hard die young and all that. that&#8217;s fine when you are 23.  not fine when your kids are at home.<br />paul</p>
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		By: Bill Sommers		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2007/08/scooterless-in-city/#comment-1467</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Sommers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trips into the city any more put my nerves on high alert. I don&#039;t adapt to the hustle the way I did in the &#039;80&#039;s when I spent half of every week in Seattle for over a year. Riding would be an adventure for sure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have fun,&lt;br /&gt;Bill]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trips into the city any more put my nerves on high alert. I don&#8217;t adapt to the hustle the way I did in the &#8217;80&#8217;s when I spent half of every week in Seattle for over a year. Riding would be an adventure for sure.</p>
<p>Have fun,<br />Bill</p>
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		By: pitchertaker		</title>
		<link>https://scooterinthesticks.com/2007/08/scooterless-in-city/#comment-1466</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pitchertaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tell me you didn&#039;t eat a White Castle?  How desperate you must have been.  Even after seven weeks on the road (in a Pathfinder mind you), I never stooped so low.  California is the worst when it comes to lane splitters -- they do it at very high speed.  I hate those riders who think they have special privilege to splie the lanes.  My daughter moved to the next town over, and that&#039;s far enough.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;P&#039;taker]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me you didn&#8217;t eat a White Castle?  How desperate you must have been.  Even after seven weeks on the road (in a Pathfinder mind you), I never stooped so low.  California is the worst when it comes to lane splitters &#8212; they do it at very high speed.  I hate those riders who think they have special privilege to splie the lanes.  My daughter moved to the next town over, and that&#8217;s far enough.  </p>
<p>P&#8217;taker</p>
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